Here’s Why Remain In EU Is currently Winning – Its Economics


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as yet the Leave-The-EU campaigners are not only too fractured but they are failing to show a clear economic benefit in Leaving the EU and also failing to make clear a sound vision of benefits in breaking with the status quo – endlessly ‘slagging off’ the EU is just not a good enough reason to Leave for the majority who are easily swayed by innuendo and FUD.

That many in the various Leave Campaigns are willing glibbly to claim that when we Leave-The-EU we will have £53 Million a day extra to spend IN Britain is grossly irresponsible and so easily disproved that that level of stupidity undermines the overall case for us to Leave-The-EU – none of the facts relatuive to Leave-The-EU are simple, see the >PAGES< at the head of this web site and you will start to realise just how predictably the Leave Campaigners are falling into all the same traps and mistakes they followed to loose in 1975!

It is also worth noting just how few individuals, politicians, campaigners and particularly media will be willing to study the case in depth when you consider just how much material and how complex the facts are even if you only confine yourself to understanding the 400+ pages of >FleXcit<

I have little doubt, as it stands now, that the Remain campaigners will win the day in the Referendum – however I do not believe that will solve the issue and Britain’s membership of the EU will not only prove damaging in the long run but will eventually tear the fabric of our society apart so conclusively that a  then much weakened UK will inevitably Leave-The-EU eventually.

Surely it is far better that whilst we are still the 5th. largest economy on the planet we make a very clear case for us to Leave-The-EU and ensure we act on it and obtain a Leave Vote in the Referendum.

Let us not forget that in the 40 years since we last voted in 1975 based upon the lies and spin of the day many Countries around the world have gained their Independence and flourished as a result. Of the many dozens of Countries that have over the years obtained their Independence from Emirates, be they global or local, or from the control of large neighbours I can think of none which would once again surrender their new found independent democracy.

That various failed States from the old USSR have opted to live by subsidy from the EU as they syphone money out of their major contributors, like Britain and Germany, does display the damage done to those Balkanised regions of the USSR when it failed, but already there is disquiet amongst many of those states as they seek ways to Leave-The-EU as with many in Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and Slovenia.

We must also consider the catastrophic damage membership of the EU has done to such as Greece, Portugal, Italy, Spain and the like – there is little evidwence that Britain might not find itself in a similar position in the future if we are unfortunate enough to remain in the EU for a further period of damage!

In terms of an immediate boost to our economy when we do Leave-The-EU I consider that unlikely, however I see no evidence that over the first few years of liberty that the situation would be other than gains in some areas and losses in others that would result in sometyhing of an economic net sum static position – it will be as we move into the future that we can realistically expect our economy to steadily improve unfettered by the overarching undemocratic bureaucracy of the Supra National EU, liberated to fully manage our own economy as a sovereign democracy trading independently on the world stage within the framework of International law and standards of the WTO, CODEX, UN, WHO and the like.

Most Britons are Eurosceptics, but here’s why they’ll still vote to stay in the EU

Posted 24-Feb-2016 by in news
Picture: JOHN THYS/AFP/Getty Images

Large proportions of the UK are unhappy with Britain’s current membership terms for the EU, but most are still not convinced by the reasons for leaving, according to the “most representative polling” on the debate so far.

A study by the National Centre for Social Research has shown that the ‘Leave’ campaign needs to translate scepticism over the EU into support for withdrawal by presenting the economic case for leaving – the biggest stumbling block for the majority of voters.

The polling, which involved 4,328 face-to-face interviews with voters, a far larger and more reliable sample size than other recent polls, shows when the public were given a straight choice, the majority elected to remain.


However, the survey was completed some months ago and so does not reflect attitudes towards David Cameron’s renegotiation of the UK’s position or to Boris Johnson’s decision on the matter.

Critically, the poll reveals that only 24 per cent believed that Britain’s economy would be better off if it left the EU, while as many as 40 per cent felt it would be worse off.

In the inverse, 35 per cent of the public felt that closer links with the EU made the economy stronger, compared to only 18 per cent who believed it makes it weaker.


Writing in the Telegraph, Professor John Curtice of the University of Strathclyde and Senior Research Fellow at NatCen Social Research, who was the only major pollster to correctly predict the 2015 general election result, said:

No less than 65 per cent of voters are essentially Eurosceptics: they either say they want to leave or, more commonly, they think Britain should remain in the EU but try to reduce its powers. This, of course, is precisely the kind of voter to whom David Cameron has been trying to appeal through his renegotiation of Britain’s terms of EU membership.

But when asked whether they want Britain to continue to be a member of the EU or whether it should withdraw, only 30 per cent opt for ‘withdraw’, less than half the proportion who emerge as ‘sceptics’. Twice as many, 60 per cent, say ‘continue’.

In short, scepticism about the EU is far more widespread than is the inclination to leave.

This is because voters are only likely to back leaving if a concern about issues such as identity, sovereignty and immigration – that is, the concern on which above all scepticism feeds – is coupled with the much less popular belief that Britain’s economy would be better off if it left the EU.

Ultimately – until the ‘Leave’ campaign begins to win the economic argument, it’s going nowhere.

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With an avg. 1.2M voters per MEP & Britain having only 8%, if united, say. The EUropean Parliament has no ability to make policy and has a Commission of unelected bureaucrats, thus clearly the EU is not even a pretence of being a democracy; yet The EU & many of its vassal States are willing to slaughter people in Sovereign States to impose The EU’s chosen brand of democracy on them!

The imposition of a Government and policies upon its vassal regions such as the peoples of Greece shows just how far from being a democracy the EU is.

There will be little or no change in Britain’s economic position, when we leave the EU, using a better negotiated & updated version of the ‘Norway Model’ as a stepping stone to becoming a full member of the Eropean Economic Area, where all will benefit, as we secure trade relations with the EU’s vassal regions, with an EFTA style status and can trade and negotiate independently on the global stage, as members of The Commonwealth and the Anglosphere.

One huge benefit will be that we can negotiate with bodies like the WTO, UN, WHO, IMF, CODEX and the like, directly in our own interest and that of our partners around the world in both the Commonwealth and the Anglosphere at large; rather than having negotiations and term imposed by unelected EU bureacrats and their ionterpretation of the rules handed down as if they were some great achievement by the EU.
The greatest change and benefit will be political, as we improve our democracy and self determination, with the ability to deselect and elect our own Government, with an improved Westminster structure, see >Harrogate Agenda<.
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