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firstly a point of order!!!
As I said: I THOUGHT Ramsey McDonald lost by 187 – but the accuracy is not the point of relevance it is my certainty that Parliament voted against its own best efforts by 230 yesterday – which I believ is the largest parliamentary vote against a Prime Minister’s proposal on behalf of Parliament in modern history.
It is worthy of note that McDonald had two major votes against him personally in 1924 but went on to remain in office for a further 5 years!
May I reitterate the FACT that yesterday’s vote was NOT against May nor against the Tory Party but against Parliament’s best efforts to obtain a viable and better deal with the EU – a deal which is clearly not availaable.
To make the comment No Deal, which by design of the corrupt is the term we tend to use as shorthand is a nonsense. No Deal is media/Remainer imposed aesopian olanguage with all the same veracity as the term Gay being used for various homosexual perversions, perversion being the correct word for homosexual as homosexuality is by deffinition perverse to the norm. Gay, in this context, was inserted into the language by the Russian Intel community owned Frankfurt School to suggest a situation that was far from the truth, inserted to undermine and eventually destroy Western values.
No Deal is merely a misleading shorthand for No variant to the complex Deal already in existence drawn up by the WTO for international trade – a Deal which you rightly associate with:
The Sirius Report @thesiriusreport
The fact the UK can, under WTO rules, can carry on trading with the EU without any tariffs for a period of 10 years, should the UK leave under the terms of a no deal, speaks volumes. Brussels clearly does not want the rest of the EU to see that happening #brexit #BrexitVote
The full report being available at:
WTO TERMS of International Trade:
All such International Treaties Are Bound by The Treaty of Vienna which can be tracked down with some complex Googling and is the international agreement on the terms and validity of Treaties.
It is of note in this context that the Vienna Treaty states that in any agreement if one party misleads another to obtain their agreement or acquiescence tyo a Treaty or agreement said treaty shall be null and void!
Be minded that both on the floor of the House of Commons and in the written preamble to the first Peoples Vote of 1975 there was the promise made by Edward Heath and the Government of the day that ‘there will be no loss of essential National Sovereignty’ thus it can be clearly claimed that Britain’s signature to the Treaty of Rome was founded on a lie – Ipso Facto: Britain is not bound by The Treaty of Rome nor any ammendments thereto and we are not legally vassals of the EU!
We are therefore, as the treaty and subsequent ammendments and Treaties are invalid, Britain is entitled to walk away without cost or impediment!
There is in fact no such position as a No Deal as WTO rules pertain to any and all international trade – it is the heavy duty grease which lubricates the wheels of trade around the world and as with good manners seeks to avoid fights and squabbles!
Clearly then the vote must be made, as Parliament has voted against its best endeavours by so large a majority (230),
Parliament must pass the vote to the people based upon the normal and legal terms of our democracy asking:
The questions on the ballot in this Peoples Vote on 21-Mar-2019 should be:
Q1 = Do you wish to implement #BreXit with Government Deal on 29-Mar-2019
Q2 = Do you wish to implement #BreXit with No Government Deal on 29-Mar-2019.
It then being the duty of our servants in Parliament to instruct our Civil Service to enact the withdrawal on the terms that have been democraticly determined by the people.
Talk of votes of no confidence and General Elections are clearly no more than political weenie waggling by the corrupt and the self serving.
The Parliament has until the close of business on 20-Mar-2019 to put forward any variant proposal WHICH HAS BEEN AGREED by the EU and a majority in Parliament by that date as the proposal on which the vote shall be held.
So act with dignity and integrity and get on with it for the sake of Britain our peoplers and the future.
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With an avg. 1.2M voters per MEP & Britain with 16% of EU GDP and 13% of the EU’s population yet having only 8% (if united) say, whilst holding less than 3% of the various offices within the EU Do note The EUropean Parliament has no ability to make policy and has a Commission of unelected bureaucrats, thus clearly the EU is not even a pretence of being a democracy despite its protestations!Do note that many senior apparatchicks and even elected politicians speak openly of the ‘Post Democratic era’ with no sense of shame or irony and in complete contempt of the so called electorate – yet The EU & many of its vassal States/Regions are all too willing to slaughter people in Sovereign States, to impose The EU’s chosen brand of democracy on them!
Now as President Junker announced in his ‘State of the union’ speech 2017 the aim is to create an EU military force and centralise ever more of the decision making and control!
The imposition of a Government and policies upon its vassal regions such as the peoples of Greece shows just how far from being a democracy the EU is.
Just follow the recent EU display of so called ‘Democracy’:
France and the Netherlands voted against the proposed EU constitution in 2005, only to have those votes ignored.
Ireland voted against ratifying the Lisbon treaty in 2008, but then later under pressure & threats had to change its mind.
Greece for me was the final straw. It became clear in 2015 that it didn’t matter which way the Greek people voted. The birthplace of democracy had become its tomb. That was enough. I was going to vote to leave the EU when the chance came.
No political party of any significance in Britain took active steps to achieve a Referendum – the task was eventually taken by an Indipendent West Midlands MEP Nikki Sinclaire who personally launched and funded the gathering of a petition of 225,000 signatures delivered to Parliament via Downing Street, thus forcing a debate in the House of Commons on an IN/OUT Referendum, which led to David Cameron’s first consequential rebellion.
It was due to winning that debate, officially opposed by every party including Ukip that David Cameron was forced to include a promise of an IN/OUT Referendum in the Tory Manifesto at the next General Election. The rest is history & despite no Parliamentary Party backing the OUT vote & Government spending Millions of Pounds of public money leafletting & promoting ‘Project Fear’ to try to persuade the British people to Remain just as they had at the first Referendum in 1975 – This time their lies and threats were not heeded and in the largest vote in British history Britain voted by a clear majority to Leave.
Nikki Sinclaire’s OUT result left Cameron & his co conspirator Osborne with no option but to resign, sadly some of the other traitors have remained to try to hinder progress to BreXit, aided by their corrupt allies in the EU and \eu funding and bribes!
There will be little or no change in Britain’s economic position, if we leave the EU, using a better negotiated, customised & updated version of the ‘Norway Model’ as a stepping stone to becoming a full member of the Eropean Economic Area, where all will benefit, as we secure trade relations with the EU’s vassal regions, with an EFTA style status and can trade and negotiate independently on the global stage, as members of The Commonwealth and the Anglosphere.
This is of course dependent on a modicum of intelligence on the part of Britain’s politicians and negotiators but it also requires the integrity of Parliament to uphod democracy and the integrity of EU politicuians & apparchicks to act ethically and without their normal vindictive mallice.
I believe Leaving the EU will be turned into something of a rough ride by the ignorant and the corrupt but I have no doubt that in the long run Leaving the EU will prove conclusively to be in the best interests of Britain and our true allies. I also believe that Britain leaving the EU will prove to be the catalyst to great changes within the EU and hopefully its democratisation as without great changes it is indubitably doomed.
Do not overlook the fact that politicians have plotted and schemmed since the 1950s and we have actually been vassals of the EU, when it was still using the aesopian linguistics and calling itself The Common Market in the early 1970s, a name the bureaucrats arbitrarily changed to EUropean Union in the early 1990s as they worked towards their long term goals of an ever closer centrally controlled Political and economic Union with its own anthem, currency, flag and rigid central control by its self appointed bureacrats towards a new Empirate –
It will take many years to rectify the mess our political class got us into and we have no other peacefull means by which to extricate ourselves than to depend on that self same self styled elite, who all too often forget they work for us!
One huge benefit of BreXit will be that we can negotiate with bodies like the WTO, UN, WHO, IMF, CODEX and the like, directly, in our own interest and that of our partners around the world, in both the Commonwealth and the Anglosphere at large; rather than having negotiations and terms imposed by unelected EU bureacrats and their interpretation of the rules handed down, as if they were some great achievement of the EU’s!The greatest change and benefit will be political, as we improve our democracy and self determination, with the ability to deselect and elect our own Government, with an improved Westminster structure, see >Harrogate Agenda<.
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